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When Patti retired a few months ago, everyone told her they loved the freedom and flexibility that quitting their jobs gave them. it's not. With this transition, Patty grieves the loss of his routine and sense of purpose. And she wonders how to find her fulfillment in the (crap!) third act of her life. On today's episode, Courtney Martin welcomes Brad Stalberg, author of. Master of Change: How to excel when everything changes, including you.. Brad helps Patti rethink this major transformation and emerge from it stronger.
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